7 Comments to “Contact Sticks of Fire Advertisers On Hate Post”

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1. Kenneth Quinnell
   22 January 2007 at 04:13 | Permalink

   Thanks for posting this stuff, it’s pretty incredible that people are openly saying such hideous things.

2. David Jenkins
   22 January 2007 at 19:14 | Permalink

   Hi Michael,

   I notice you list me here as a “friend and supporter” of Rachel Moran, and I’d just like to say that I feel that you have misrepresented me, and my opinions.

   I feel like I was attempting to define my position on the Sticks blog while distancing myself from any notion that I think it’s ok to go around beating on people, and I also noted I never felt Rachel was honestly advocating actually making some documentary. That is was satire, bar talk. I say that because as I mentioned I know the girl in passing and know well several of her friends that she made while at Stetson Law School and none of that is something I seriously thought she’d undertake.

   I also posted my thoughts on this entire issue on my personal blog: http://maladrin.blogspot.com/2007/01/aggressive-panhandling-again.html.

   This is a complex and very serious issue. I have repeatedly said that I do not advocate beating or in any other way dehumanizing the homeless or needy. I noted how I felt her documentary fantasy was just that. If I really felt that this was some serious plan I would obviously be mortified.

   I know the internet can be dangerous to express an opinion on lest it be taken out of context, but I truly hope that one can see my position, and why I defended what I defended. I suppose if you or anyone else is going to call me a hate-mongerer or some hate-mongerer supporter because of how this shook out I can’t change that – but I know how I feel and what I believe and I know that that’s not the case.

3. David Jenkins
   22 January 2007 at 20:25 | Permalink

   Hi Michael,

   I posted a comment here earlier, which appears to have already unfortunately disappeared. I’ll try again. I also commented at Pushing Rope.

   I think you’ve misrepresented me in your comment that I’m a “friend and supporter” of Rachel.

   I very clearly stated I knew her in passing, but knew some of her fellow students who are still her friends from Stetson. I clearly stated I didn’t think she was serious about filming anything. I also clearly stated I don’t advocate beating anyone up and that her friend Eddie sounded like a dick. The only statement of support I made is that I also agree that aggressive panhandling is a problem and that people could help eliminate it by not encouraging it.

   I left a follow-up on my own blog, http://maladrin.blogspot.com.

   I really hope there can be more actual discussion on this issue than lynch-mob forming.

4. Dave H
   22 January 2007 at 21:14 | Permalink

   Hi David, your comment didn’t disappear, but was shunted into moderation. I’ve approved it, so you will see it above.

5. David Jenkins
   22 January 2007 at 22:30 | Permalink

   Err … yeah, I noticed that after I tried submitting the second time. I couldn’t read the white text in the yellow block.

   Anyway, thanks for letting me clarify my position.

6. Dave H
   22 January 2007 at 23:04 | Permalink

   Sorry about the readability issues, David. I’ll remember that when I look into the template files.

   I need to update the commenting to use Askimet spam-protection, but I haven’t had the chance. I’ll have to make time to get that done. It would be a big improvement over moderating comments.

   Your comments are welcome here. Thanks for your input. Sorry that the clunky system frustrated you.

7. Rachel*
   6 February 2007 at 00:12 | Permalink

   True, David Jenkins is an acquaintance only. He is hardly a supporter of mine, simply because, well, it’s a blog post, I don’t need “support,” you know?

   Jobsite’s cool. Relax.

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